Well where do I start with this?  There already exists on the ISCGB website an article titled ISCGB WORKING TEST Special Beginners – 25/06/2006 Article by Keith Wain & Julie Kelly which gives you an insight into how we came to be owned by Spinoni.

After taking our first Spinone Dino to the Working Test in 2006 we tried to do what was necessary to turn him into a fully-fledged gundog.  At that time and for many years following that there was very little opportunity in the North West for HPR training.  Those that did exist did not seem to understand the Spinone and on some training days we went to people where in fact rude about the breed.  As first time HPR owners we found it all very difficult, added to the fact that Dino was a very headstrong young boy.  Sadly we gave up with the working dream, but it always bothered me that there was so little help out there in our area and specifically virtually nothing for Spinone.

Following our trip to Elstead in 2006 we made many annual trips to help Alix and the team, and started helping with the Gundog pavilions at Game Fairs. We knew this was the sort of thing we wanted to be involved with and I dreamt of there being a North West Group specifically for Spinone one day.
On 6th April 2014 we lost our beloved Dino suddenly to splenic hemangiosarcoma, he would have been 12 years old on the 26th May 2014.  To say we were devastated was an understatement.  We still had Mia though (she came to us is 2009 as a puppy through the rehome and rescue) and she grieved like we did, sadly Mia turned out to be a very timid creature and was not destined to be a working dog. We spent the summer wondering whether we should have another dog or not.  Eventually we started to make enquiries and on 29th November 2014 we brought home Franca Ferola (Dita to her friends).  Keith had been doing more shooting over the intervening years and really wanted to succeed where we had failed with Dino and so the whole training thing raised its head again.

There is definitely more HPR training out there now than there was back in 2006 but still nothing specifically for the Spinone.  We have been to some great trainers since we brought Dita home and continue to do so, but my dream of having some Spinone specific training in the North West was reignited.  We then realised that actually we had access to land that could be used for training in Cheshire, through Keith’s work and family connections, so I spoke with Alix Johnson about my thoughts and she took it to the ISCGB committee to see if they would help me with it – they agreed to cover any training I organised through the clubs insurance and we agreed any profits from training after expenses would go back into the club funds.

So we were off, with the help of Cathy Gill our local representative on the club committee and Kim Kaye a fellow Spinone owner we had met in April 2015 at a training day we set about organising our first training day.  First a Facebook page was set up and all Spinone people that we knew in the local area and further afield interested in working their dogs were added to the group and we explained what we were trying to achieve.  On 29th February we advertised our first training day was to be held on 2nd April for a maximum of 6 dogs – we got 7! How excited and pleased was I, I cannot find the words.  Chris Guest came and did the training for us and despite the terrible weather everyone had a great time.

On the 2nd July we will be running our 4th training day and aim to run one every month going forward, generally on the 1st Saturday of the month to enable people to plan and also to allow us to get organised and arrange trainers.  These dates may change, especially during the shooting season, but we will always advertise on the Facebook page and also put booking forms on various other Facebook pages – Italian Spinone Dog Lovers; The Working Italian Spinone Group; Working Italian Spinone; ISCGB Working Section and the ISCGB Website.  As I find more areas to publicise on social media sites I will do so.

Now that we have run a few days we are starting to learn from what we are seeing and from the trainers and participants feedback what is required and wanted, and so I am looking to get a number of trainers involved for a couple of reasons, not least so that we are not reliant on one and also to bring different things to the training days.  Areas we have identified to date are that there is some requirement for specific basic training improvements and so I have arranged for an Obedience trainer to come to one of the future sessions, also we have identified a need for retriever improvements and again I have arranged for someone who will come and focus on that area.

The days at present have consisted of two sessions of two hours duration with six dogs in each session. These have typically been split between beginners and novice based on the participant’s assessment of their abilities as indicated on the booking forms that are issued.  This format seems to work well at present and we have to date covered our costs.

As all of you who have Spinone will know they are very intelligent dogs and need a purpose in life to stimulate them, you don’t have to want to go and shoot with your dog, or do working tests or field trials, you may just want to have that bond with them through training, whatever your relationship with your dog if you feel that training days like these are something you would be interested in then please get in touch, maybe come and have a watch before committing if you wish.  We would love to see you!

Julie Kelly
jk.ero@sky.com

 

 ISCGB WORKING TEST Special Beginners – 25/06/2006 Article by Keith Wain & Julie Kelly

We wanted a gundog.  Had a Spaniel and they are hard work and barmy. Lets have a retriever.  Julie had had a Golden Retriever called Candy for Christmas when she was just nine years old and loved her to bits. She had Candy for fourteen years and didn’t want to spoil the memory, so she wanted something different.  We had started to settle on a Chocolate Lab when a friend introduced us to the world of Spinone.  We read it all, Kennel Club website, ISCGB website, and all the others, and the more we looked, and the more we read, the more it became apparent a Spinone was for us.  This was spring 2002.  We searched around and found two litters of puppies. One in Hampshire, and one in Conway in North Wales, which is about an hours drive for us.  Before we knew it, we were on our way to view the puppies.  Only looking mind! Should never buy from the first litter you see!   Four weeks later we were driving home from North Wales with a little blonde bundle on Julie’s knee.  Iolyn Porth Llwyd, or Dino to his friends, had arrived.

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The Italian Mob Training Group

Training days are held on the last Sunday of each month.

 

This year it starts on January 25th at Brettanby Manor, Richmond, North Yorkshire, DL10 6HF. Session starts at 11am, finish around 4pm.

Coffee, cake, hot soup and crusty bread available. 

Trainers: Mrs Penny Pickstone teaching HPR, Mr Ryan Kay teaching obedience. 

Dummy launcher and cold game available for dogs at this stage of their training.

Contact Michelle Hurrell on 07981104999

 

 

Norfolk and Suffolk HPR Club Details 2014 

 

Training is generally held on the third Sunday of each month, visit the website for more information.

 

You can also find details on the website    http://www.norfolk-suffolk-hpr-ftclub.co.uk/

 

Welcome to the North West Spinone Training Group Page on the ISCGB website.
This Group was set up in early 2016 as a result of a passion of mine to have a local training group specifically for Spinone and following discussions with the clubs Field Trial secretary, which lead to it being supported by the ISCGB Committee. The background to the reasons for my passion for such a group to exist can be found in two articles, the links of which can be found below if you are interested.

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GSP Club, Yorkshire Group Team Retrieve Challenge 2015

This annual event is open to all HPR breeds.

Groups of friends form teas of either mixed or single HPR breeds. This year there were 54 entries making 7 teams, and 16 of these entries were Spinoni, split across 2 teams. This is exciting beacuse it is rare to see so many Spinoni entering ”Working” competitions, often there will be just one, or none at all in a working test or field trial.

The event was split into 4 retrieve tests of varying difficulty. Each team member does the test and is marked individually. The scrose of the top 3 dogs from each team are then used to give the total score for each test. 

 

Test One

A long seen retrieve across a field to the edge of a wood.  Each dog started off with 25 points and lost a point for every error.  So, for Toby and me, while the test itself wasn’t difficult, Toby marked the retrieve and ran out fast, but he lost marks for peeing on a tree, hunting wide of the area and on his return he came back to me on a slight curve rather than in a direct straight line.  

Test Two

The second test was a split retrieve.  Two dummies were set out, quite close to each other, on the edge of a crop field (with a strong scent of game – probably rabbits). One was a seen marked retrieve, representing a dead bird, the other, representing a “runner” or wounded bird, was a blind retrieve. We had to decide which bird to send the dog for first and points would be lost for selecting the wrong bird. I correctly sent Toby for the runner first, which he winded quite quickly, brought straight back and delivered to hand.  The second retrieve was more challenging because although Toby had marked this, by now he had forgotten about it.  I set him off correctly but he became distracted by the scent in the crops, as did many other dogs, and it took a while for me to direct him back towards the dummy. I lost points here for over direction and confusing my dog with to much whistle.  Eventually he winded it and brought it back with a nice delivery to hand.  

Test Three

Test three was a long distance seen retrieve using a dummy launcher.  Toby loves these, unfortunately he loves them too much and is so excited by the dummy launcher that he struggles to sit steady on hearing the bang, tends to run straight in at full speed in the direction he thinks the dummy is heading and, therefore, misses where the dummy  lands; meaning he has to hunt for the dummy.  Whilst Toby is steady to shot in a shoot situation, in this test he did exactly as I predicted and we lost points for lack of steadiness, needing to hunt for the dummy and for too much instruction. However, I was pleased with our score it being considerably higher than I was expecting. 
 
Test Four
 
The final test was to find two dummies which had been hidden in a wood, within thick cover.   I knew where the dummies were which meant that I could direct Toby accordingly.  This turned out to be our highest scoring test.  Toby followed my direction and straight away found the first dummy on scent, returned it and went back out on my instruction to find the second quickly. This test presented a very realistic situation, where a picking up dog would hunt through thick cover to find shot game and return it quickly to the handler, I was delighted with my boy!
 
This event, although competitive, was a fun sociable day and for me, a novice handler with a young dog, a terrific learning experience without the pressure of being a formal Test.  I discovered how easy it is to go wrong and lose points on too much handler intervention, but I also saw what Toby is capable of and how my hard work is paying off – he exceeded my expectations and I learnt just how much work I have to do. 

 

Alli Kay & Toby 2015

I have been asked to put a few words together to tell you all about my experience of the North West Spinone group.

Having a busy boy who needs plenty to do I thought it would be a good idea to have a go at a bit of gundog work.

I went to a couple of groups but to be honest I felt a little out of my depth and then I heard about the North west group and felt that as it was more focused on working the Spinone and HPR’s it may be more suitable.

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